DIY_EFI Digest Monday, 16 June 1997 Volume 02 : Number 204 In this issue: Re: 307kW "Factory" engines.. Re: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Re: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor Re: O2 sensor meter RE: reading GM computer codes was: newbie here, gotta few questions Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Re: 307kW "Factory" engines.. RE: reading GM computer codes was: newbie here, gotta few questions FW: O2 sensor meter Re[2]: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula RE: DIY_EFI Digest V2 #203 FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. Upgrade D-Jetronic FW: O2 sensor meter ALDL interface circuit FW: Re[2]: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor FW: REJECTED: FW: O2 sensor meter FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula FW: REJECTED: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula FW: REJECTED: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. Re: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Bosch hotwire sensor.. FW: O2 sensor meter FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. FW: REJECTED: FW: O2 sensor meter FW: Re[2]: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula FW: REJECTED: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula FW: REJECTED: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the DIY_EFI or DIY_EFI-Digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barney Ward Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:55:59 -0400 Subject: Re: 307kW "Factory" engines.. Craig Pugsley wrote: > > > Subject: RE: DIY_EFI Digest V2 #197 > > > > They still build the power machines in Australia. Get the new GMH HSV GTR, > > stroked 305 to produce a 217kw 350 engine, get the optional APS supercharger > > kit fitted and you have a 307kw engine with massive torque straight from the > > factory line. > > err.. Supercharger kit for the V8 fitted at the *factory* by *Holden*? > News to me! (Even though they put 215kw HSV drivetrain in the GTS-R on the > standard commodore production line). > > If they did do it, get ready for the "sticker shock" of an overpriced > for what you get car (as for all HSVs)! > > Cheers, > Craig. Who's Skippy? ------------------------------ From: Dan Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:07:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula I am figuring out the parts to make a fluid drive for a go-cart. Have a couple of ideas for transmissions and want to try them out. Dan L > >What's formula for converting hydraulic pressure into horspower? For > >instance, at 24 Gallons/Min @ 2300 PSI, what's the equivalent > >horsepower? > > 32.205 HP > > HP = PSI X GPM / 1714 > > Err, whatcha makin? > > Happy motoring, > > Steve Delanty (sdelanty@xxx.net) > > 1971 F100, FE390, T-18 4-speed shortbox. ------------------------------ From: Dan Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:10:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor Well guys, I found out that the Whipple really does make a lot of torque on my 1997 Chevy Tahoe; stripped the rear end gears and did something to second. Anybody have suggestions on how to beaf up my trans without major modifications? Dan L ------------------------------ From: cloud@xxx.edu (Tom Cloud) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:58:33 +0000 Subject: Re: O2 sensor meter >I have made the EGO sensor meter for my car, but I have found that the >voltage across LAMBDA sensor is not stable. >I mean, when the engine is running at its minimum (about 800 RPM), >the voltage go up and down around 0.5 V with a frequency about 3-5 Hz. >Why? >How can I connect your EGO sensor meter in order to have a stable value? > > Best regards Stefano Romani put a capacitor across it (actually, an R-C series combo would probably work best -- maybe 10k and 1 uF). *** But beware, if the EGO is used by your ecu, don't do it ... use an integrating op-amp buffer instead, as the ecu wants to see the fluctuating voltage out of the EGO Tom Cloud ------------------------------ From: Greg Woods Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:45:52 -0500 Subject: RE: reading GM computer codes was: newbie here, gotta few questions > first off check the archives for info I ve posted. > > There is softwaree, a C language listing and a interface schematic > > Which ecm are you using. the 165 or the 730. The stuff I posted > pertains to the 730. > > The 165 P4 is a bit of a bear because it wants to use 160 > baud. > > You have to send a 80 57 01 header to get it to send at > 8192 baud but only when it has ended a 160 baud frame. > > Anyways good luck:peter Peter (& Matt), I hate to ask a stupid question but, how do I tell which ECM I have? Mine is out of an 86 S10 with a 2.8l engine. I didn't see any numbers stamped on it anywhere. Also, Is this C code in an archived message? Is it available at a web sight somewhere? I desperately need to read the codes coming out of my ECM. TIA Greg Woods gwoods@xxx.com 86 Cherokee with GM 2.8L, TBI installed but not yet running! ------------------------------ From: Terry Sare Date: 16 Jun 97 09:10 CDT Subject: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Company called "Surplus Center" had a complete small axle assembly with two motors and a pump built into it. They only wanted $700 for it.:-( Would mount up neatly to go kart. They also had surplus hydraulic motors, pumps, etc. Terry ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Author: owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu at dell_unix Date: 6/16/97 7:04 AM I am figuring out the parts to make a fluid drive for a go-cart. Have a couple of ideas for transmissions and want to try them out. Dan L > >What's formula for converting hydraulic pressure into horspower? For > >instance, at 24 Gallons/Min @ 2300 PSI, what's the equivalent > >horsepower? > > 32.205 HP > > HP = PSI X GPM / 1714 > > Err, whatcha makin? > > Happy motoring, > > Steve Delanty (sdelanty@xxx.net) > > 1971 F100, FE390, T-18 4-speed shortbox. ------------------------------ From: "Ross Myers" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 23:41:53 +0000 Subject: Re: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > > Subject: RE: DIY_EFI Digest V2 #197 > > > > They still build the power machines in Australia. Get the new GMH HSV GTR, > > stroked 305 to produce a 217kw 350 engine, get the optional APS supercharger > > kit fitted and you have a 307kw engine with massive torque straight from the > > factory line. As has been said before I don't think the GM factory will fit a APS charger on the assembly line, and it's not a 305 (Chev), it's a 304 or 308 (Can't remember when they switched) Holden V8. As for 307kW, I reckon this is underrated, I saw one of those APS charged cars at our local street drag meets and it was running low 12.3 from memory, in a car that must weigh at least 3600lbs. Must take more power than that. Either way it's till a $65,000+ investment. Bye Ross Myers Melbourne, Australia ponty@xxx.au * Getting those who tell it like it is * * Won't make the problems go away * ---Jello Biafra--- ------------------------------ From: peter paul fenske Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: reading GM computer codes was: newbie here, gotta few questions Hi Greg The 86 TBI engine didn't use a P4 as much as I know. It used the C3 a 6801 based ecm The baud rate is a weird 160 PWM stuff. There was quite a bit of stuff done on this net before. Really do look through the archives.. I think Oliver and a few other chaps did have workable solutions. I have not done anything with 160 baud. GL:peter At 08:45 AM 6/16/97 -0500, you wrote: > >> first off check the archives for info I ve posted. >> >> There is softwaree, a C language listing and a interface schematic >> >> Which ecm are you using. the 165 or the 730. The stuff I posted >> pertains to the 730. >> >> The 165 P4 is a bit of a bear because it wants to use 160 >> baud. >> >> You have to send a 80 57 01 header to get it to send at >> 8192 baud but only when it has ended a 160 baud frame. >> >> Anyways good luck:peter > >Peter (& Matt), > >I hate to ask a stupid question but, how do I tell which ECM I have? >Mine is out of an 86 S10 with a 2.8l engine. I didn't see any numbers >stamped on it anywhere. > >Also, Is this C code in an archived message? Is it available at >a web sight somewhere? > >I desperately need to read the codes coming out of my ECM. >TIA > >Greg Woods >gwoods@xxx.com >86 Cherokee with GM 2.8L, >TBI installed but not yet running! > > ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:43:34 -0700 Subject: FW: O2 sensor meter > >---------- >From: cloud@xxx.edu >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 3:40:54 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: RE: O2 sensor meter >Auto forwarded by a Rule > >uNSUBSCRIBE >dO NOT SEND ANY MORE MESSAGES so, Kevin, why do you send me your request to unsubscribe from diy-efi ??? also, sending requests to the list won't get you off it .... you have to send them to majordomo, the list server, or to the list administrator. Tom Cloud ------------------------------ From: Mark Eidson Date: Mon, 16 Jun 97 08:51:00 PDT Subject: Re[2]: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor Text item: Hi all, I've been watching the list for some time now, asked a few questions, got some good help on tuning my '69 302 Mustang with a 700 CFM Holley 4di unit, and made some suggestions my self. It's now time to redo the engine in my '76 Blazer. Its has a 400 Chev-SB and I'm looking to inject it this time around for better off road performance. I also want to significantly increase the low end torque and am looking for suggestions. I live in Arizona and am concerned about turbo charging. The Whipple route sounds interessting but how would that work with EFI? If turbo chrarging how does one optimize for low end? Is a big block the way to go? Thanks, me. Text item: External Message Header The following mail header is for administrative use and may be ignored unless there are problems. ***IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS SAVE THESE HEADERS***. Reply-To: diy_efi@xxx.edu Precedence: bulk Sender: owner-diy_efi@xxx.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: Subject: Re: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor To: diy_efi@xxx.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Organization: none From: Dan Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:10:49 -0400 Message-ID: <33A52D49.22EC@xxx.com> Received: from pat-nj3-26.ix.netcom.com(204.31.242.122) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.co m via smap (V1.3) id sma013677; Mon Jun 16 07:07:25 1997 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA13699 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07 :07:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (9 40816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id IAA20523; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:0 7:30 -0400 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for diy_efi-outgoing id MAA20528; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:07:33 GMT Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.8.4/10.0i); Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:29:24 GMT Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com (thalia.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.11]) by chm ail.ch.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05638 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:00:56 -0700 Subject: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > >---------- >From: Ross Myers >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 4:41:53 PM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu >Subject: Re: 307kW "Factory" engines.. >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > > Subject: RE: DIY_EFI Digest V2 #197 > > > > They still build the power machines in Australia. Get the new GMH HSV GTR, > > stroked 305 to produce a 217kw 350 engine, get the optional APS supercharger > > kit fitted and you have a 307kw engine with massive torque straight from the > > factory line. As has been said before I don't think the GM factory will fit a APS charger on the assembly line, and it's not a 305 (Chev), it's a 304 or 308 (Can't remember when they switched) Holden V8. As for 307kW, I reckon this is underrated, I saw one of those APS charged cars at our local street drag meets and it was running low 12.3 from memory, in a car that must weigh at least 3600lbs. Must take more power than that. Either way it's till a $65,000+ investment. Bye Ross Myers Melbourne, Australia ponty@xxx.au * Getting those who tell it like it is * * Won't make the problems go away * ---Jello Biafra--- ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:11:53 -0700 Subject: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula > >---------- >From: Terry Sare >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 7:10:00 AM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu; >owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu >Subject: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula >Auto forwarded by a Rule > Company called "Surplus Center" had a complete small axle assembly with two motors and a pump built into it. They only wanted $700 for it.:-( Would mount up neatly to go kart. They also had surplus hydraulic motors, pumps, etc. Terry ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Author: owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu at dell_unix Date: 6/16/97 7:04 AM I am figuring out the parts to make a fluid drive for a go-cart. Have a couple of ideas for transmissions and want to try them out. Dan L > >What's formula for converting hydraulic pressure into horspower? For > >instance, at 24 Gallons/Min @ 2300 PSI, what's the equivalent > >horsepower? > > 32.205 HP > > HP = PSI X GPM / 1714 > > Err, whatcha makin? > > Happy motoring, > > Steve Delanty (sdelanty@xxx.net) > > 1971 F100, FE390, T-18 4-speed shortbox. ------------------------------ From: talltom@xxx.com Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:45:10 PDT Subject: RE: DIY_EFI Digest V2 #203 How about an interpreter??? Can anybody tell the rest of us what the down under crowd is talking about with all gtv, htr, stuff?? The way I understand it a holden is the Aussie equivalent of a chevy??? If thats true, what's alll the alphabet soup stuff??? ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:24:37 -0700 Subject: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 9:00:56 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: Ross Myers >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 4:41:53 PM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu >Subject: Re: 307kW "Factory" engines.. >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > > Subject: RE: DIY_EFI Digest V2 #197 > > > > They still build the power machines in Australia. Get the new GMH HSV GTR, > > stroked 305 to produce a 217kw 350 engine, get the optional APS supercharger > > kit fitted and you have a 307kw engine with massive torque straight from the > > factory line. As has been said before I don't think the GM factory will fit a APS charger on the assembly line, and it's not a 305 (Chev), it's a 304 or 308 (Can't remember when they switched) Holden V8. As for 307kW, I reckon this is underrated, I saw one of those APS charged cars at our local street drag meets and it was running low 12.3 from memory, in a car that must weigh at least 3600lbs. Must take more power than that. Either way it's till a $65,000+ investment. Bye Ross Myers Melbourne, Australia ponty@xxx.au * Getting those who tell it like it is * * Won't make the problems go away * ---Jello Biafra--- ------------------------------ From: Daniel Beaulieu Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:21:05 +0000 Subject: Upgrade D-Jetronic Dear Mister, I have read a message in yours Archive for upgrading D-Jetronic systems for Porsche 914's and type 3 VW's (The trottle switch, pressure sensor and the ECM will be replaced and the other parts will be maintained). I have a Citroen SM 72' carburator (Maserati v6 90°, 2670 cm3, same as the Maserati Merak) and I would like to install the original D-Jetronic system. I would like to know if it is possible to upgrade the original D-Jetronic systems in my SM and what would be the approximately price for the new parts ? Best Regards Daniel Beaulieu Club Citroen of Québec ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:36:28 -0700 Subject: FW: O2 sensor meter > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 8:43:34 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: O2 sensor meter >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: cloud@xxx.edu >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 3:40:54 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: RE: O2 sensor meter >Auto forwarded by a Rule > >uNSUBSCRIBE >dO NOT SEND ANY MORE MESSAGES so, Kevin, why do you send me your request to unsubscribe from diy-efi ??? also, sending requests to the list won't get you off it .... you have to send them to majordomo, the list server, or to the list administrator. Tom Cloud ------------------------------ From: Chief Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:32:00 -0400 Subject: ALDL interface circuit I searched the archives and only found the GM ALDL interface schematic in Tango format. I have the file DB.SO1 but can't convert it. Searched the internet for a conversion utility to no avail. :-( Is this available in some common format, pcx, gif, jpg or whatever? If so, could someone please mail it directly to me, point me to a web or ftp site? Thanks very much. Ed Hilker aka "Chief" 84'SS - 700R4 ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:43:39 -0700 Subject: FW: Re[2]: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor > >---------- >From: Mark Eidson >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 8:51:00 AM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu >Subject: Re[2]: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor >Auto forwarded by a Rule > Text item: Hi all, I've been watching the list for some time now, asked a few questions, got some good help on tuning my '69 302 Mustang with a 700 CFM Holley 4di unit, and made some suggestions my self. It's now time to redo the engine in my '76 Blazer. Its has a 400 Chev-SB and I'm looking to inject it this time around for better off road performance. I also want to significantly increase the low end torque and am looking for suggestions. I live in Arizona and am concerned about turbo charging. The Whipple route sounds interessting but how would that work with EFI? If turbo chrarging how does one optimize for low end? Is a big block the way to go? Thanks, me. Text item: External Message Header The following mail header is for administrative use and may be ignored unless there are problems. ***IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS SAVE THESE HEADERS***. Reply-To: diy_efi@xxx.edu Precedence: bulk Sender: owner-diy_efi@xxx.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: Subject: Re: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor To: diy_efi@xxx.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Organization: none From: Dan Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:10:49 -0400 Message-ID: <33A52D49.22EC@xxx.com> Received: from pat-nj3-26.ix.netcom.com(204.31.242.122) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.co m via smap (V1.3) id sma013677; Mon Jun 16 07:07:25 1997 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA13699 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07 :07:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (9 40816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id IAA20523; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:0 7:30 -0400 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for diy_efi-outgoing id MAA20528; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:07:33 GMT Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.8.4/10.0i); Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:29:24 GMT Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com (thalia.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.11]) by chm ail.ch.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05638 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:49:38 -0700 Subject: FW: REJECTED: FW: O2 sensor meter > >---------- >From: MAILER-DAEMON@xxx.ceo >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 6:43:36 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: REJECTED: FW: O2 sensor meter > >Auto forwarded by a Rule > ----- Mail rejected by CEO. ----- (CEO_POA) Recipient's inbox is full. Mail not sent to:oecar1@xxx.ceo ----- Unsent message follows ----- From: kharper3@xxx.com To: diy_efi@xxx.edu Subject: FW: O2 sensor meter > >---------- >From: cloud@xxx.edu >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 3:40:54 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: RE: O2 sensor meter >Auto forwarded by a Rule > >uNSUBSCRIBE >dO NOT SEND ANY MORE MESSAGES so, Kevin, why do you send me your request to unsubscribe from diy-efi ??? also, sending requests to the list won't get you off it .... you have to send them to majordomo, the list server, or to the list administrator. Tom Cloud ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:49:01 -0700 Subject: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 9:11:53 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: Terry Sare >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 7:10:00 AM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu; >owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu >Subject: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula >Auto forwarded by a Rule > Company called "Surplus Center" had a complete small axle assembly with two motors and a pump built into it. They only wanted $700 for it.:-( Would mount up neatly to go kart. They also had surplus hydraulic motors, pumps, etc. Terry ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Author: owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu at dell_unix Date: 6/16/97 7:04 AM I am figuring out the parts to make a fluid drive for a go-cart. Have a couple of ideas for transmissions and want to try them out. Dan L > >What's formula for converting hydraulic pressure into horspower? For > >instance, at 24 Gallons/Min @ 2300 PSI, what's the equivalent > >horsepower? > > 32.205 HP > > HP = PSI X GPM / 1714 > > Err, whatcha makin? > > Happy motoring, > > Steve Delanty (sdelanty@xxx.net) > > 1971 F100, FE390, T-18 4-speed shortbox. ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:49:46 -0700 Subject: FW: REJECTED: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula > >---------- >From: MAILER-DAEMON@xxx.ceo >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 7:11:54 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: REJECTED: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula > >Auto forwarded by a Rule > ----- Mail rejected by CEO. ----- (CEO_POA) Recipient's inbox is full. Mail not sent to:oecar1@xxx.ceo ----- Unsent message follows ----- From: kharper3@xxx.com To: diy_efi@xxx.edu Subject: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula > >---------- >From: Terry Sare >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 7:10:00 AM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu; >owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu >Subject: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula >Auto forwarded by a Rule > Company called "Surplus Center" had a complete small axle assembly with two motors and a pump built into it. They only wanted $700 for it.:-( Would mount up neatly to go kart. They also had surplus hydraulic motors, pumps, etc. Terry ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Author: owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu at dell_unix Date: 6/16/97 7:04 AM I am figuring out the parts to make a fluid drive for a go-cart. Have a couple of ideas for transmissions and want to try them out. Dan L > >What's formula for converting hydraulic pressure into horspower? For > >instance, at 24 Gallons/Min @ 2300 PSI, what's the equivalent > >horsepower? > > 32.205 HP > > HP = PSI X GPM / 1714 > > Err, whatcha makin? > > Happy motoring, > > Steve Delanty (sdelanty@xxx.net) > > 1971 F100, FE390, T-18 4-speed shortbox. ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:49:44 -0700 Subject: FW: REJECTED: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > >---------- >From: MAILER-DAEMON@xxx.ceo >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 7:00:58 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: REJECTED: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > >Auto forwarded by a Rule > ----- Mail rejected by CEO. ----- (CEO_POA) Recipient's inbox is full. Mail not sent to:oecar1@xxx.ceo ----- Unsent message follows ----- From: kharper3@xxx.com To: diy_efi@xxx.edu Subject: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > >---------- >From: Ross Myers >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 4:41:53 PM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu >Subject: Re: 307kW "Factory" engines.. >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > > Subject: RE: DIY_EFI Digest V2 #197 > > > > They still build the power machines in Australia. Get the new GMH HSV GTR, > > stroked 305 to produce a 217kw 350 engine, get the optional APS supercharger > > kit fitted and you have a 307kw engine with massive torque straight from the > > factory line. As has been said before I don't think the GM factory will fit a APS charger on the assembly line, and it's not a 305 (Chev), it's a 304 or 308 (Can't remember when they switched) Holden V8. As for 307kW, I reckon this is underrated, I saw one of those APS charged cars at our local street drag meets and it was running low 12.3 from memory, in a car that must weigh at least 3600lbs. Must take more power than that. Either way it's till a $65,000+ investment. Bye Ross Myers Melbourne, Australia ponty@xxx.au * Getting those who tell it like it is * * Won't make the problems go away * ---Jello Biafra--- ------------------------------ From: MikeTurner@xxx.com (Mike Turner) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:46:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Would you have an address, phone number, or email address for "Surplus Center" you could post? To: diy_efi @ INTERNET, owner-diy_efi-outgoing @ INTERNET cc: From: Terry Sare @ INTERNET Date: 06/16/97 11:39:14 AM Subject: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Company called "Surplus Center" had a complete small axle assembly with two motors and a pump built into it. They only wanted $700 for it.:-( Would mount up neatly to go kart. They also had surplus hydraulic motors, pumps, etc. Terry ------------------------------ From: "Klas Arvidsson" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:25:13 PDT Subject: Bosch hotwire sensor.. I have built a l-jetronic lap-top controlled fuel injection system, which I vant to upgrade. My question is: Does anyone know what the specifications of the output of a Bosch hot wire air mass sensor is. This is my first posting to this group and my English sucks! Klas Scirocco -75 - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:32:22 -0700 Subject: FW: O2 sensor meter > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 10:36:28 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: O2 sensor meter >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 8:43:34 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: O2 sensor meter >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: cloud@xxx.edu >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 3:40:54 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: RE: O2 sensor meter >Auto forwarded by a Rule > >uNSUBSCRIBE >dO NOT SEND ANY MORE MESSAGES so, Kevin, why do you send me your request to unsubscribe from diy-efi ??? also, sending requests to the list won't get you off it .... you have to send them to majordomo, the list server, or to the list administrator. Tom Cloud ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:39:11 -0700 Subject: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 10:24:37 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 9:00:56 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: Ross Myers >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 4:41:53 PM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu >Subject: Re: 307kW "Factory" engines.. >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > > Subject: RE: DIY_EFI Digest V2 #197 > > > > They still build the power machines in Australia. Get the new GMH HSV GTR, > > stroked 305 to produce a 217kw 350 engine, get the optional APS supercharger > > kit fitted and you have a 307kw engine with massive torque straight from the > > factory line. As has been said before I don't think the GM factory will fit a APS charger on the assembly line, and it's not a 305 (Chev), it's a 304 or 308 (Can't remember when they switched) Holden V8. As for 307kW, I reckon this is underrated, I saw one of those APS charged cars at our local street drag meets and it was running low 12.3 from memory, in a car that must weigh at least 3600lbs. Must take more power than that. Either way it's till a $65,000+ investment. Bye Ross Myers Melbourne, Australia ponty@xxx.au * Getting those who tell it like it is * * Won't make the problems go away * ---Jello Biafra--- ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:43:59 -0700 Subject: FW: REJECTED: FW: O2 sensor meter > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 10:49:38 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: REJECTED: FW: O2 sensor meter > >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: MAILER-DAEMON@xxx.ceo >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 6:43:36 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: REJECTED: FW: O2 sensor meter > >Auto forwarded by a Rule > ----- Mail rejected by CEO. ----- (CEO_POA) Recipient's inbox is full. Mail not sent to:oecar1@xxx.ceo ----- Unsent message follows ----- From: kharper3@xxx.com To: diy_efi@xxx.edu Subject: FW: O2 sensor meter > >---------- >From: cloud@xxx.edu >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 3:40:54 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: RE: O2 sensor meter >Auto forwarded by a Rule > >uNSUBSCRIBE >dO NOT SEND ANY MORE MESSAGES so, Kevin, why do you send me your request to unsubscribe from diy-efi ??? also, sending requests to the list won't get you off it .... you have to send them to majordomo, the list server, or to the list administrator. Tom Cloud ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:44:10 -0700 Subject: FW: Re[2]: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 10:43:39 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: Re[2]: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: Mark Eidson >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 8:51:00 AM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu >Subject: Re[2]: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor >Auto forwarded by a Rule > Text item: Hi all, I've been watching the list for some time now, asked a few questions, got some good help on tuning my '69 302 Mustang with a 700 CFM Holley 4di unit, and made some suggestions my self. It's now time to redo the engine in my '76 Blazer. Its has a 400 Chev-SB and I'm looking to inject it this time around for better off road performance. I also want to significantly increase the low end torque and am looking for suggestions. I live in Arizona and am concerned about turbo charging. The Whipple route sounds interessting but how would that work with EFI? If turbo chrarging how does one optimize for low end? Is a big block the way to go? Thanks, me. Text item: External Message Header The following mail header is for administrative use and may be ignored unless there are problems. ***IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS SAVE THESE HEADERS***. Reply-To: diy_efi@xxx.edu Precedence: bulk Sender: owner-diy_efi@xxx.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: Subject: Re: Whipple (AutoRotor) Compressor To: diy_efi@xxx.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Organization: none From: Dan Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:10:49 -0400 Message-ID: <33A52D49.22EC@xxx.com> Received: from pat-nj3-26.ix.netcom.com(204.31.242.122) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.co m via smap (V1.3) id sma013677; Mon Jun 16 07:07:25 1997 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA13699 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07 :07:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (9 40816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id IAA20523; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:0 7:30 -0400 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for diy_efi-outgoing id MAA20528; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:07:33 GMT Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.8.4/10.0i); Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:29:24 GMT Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com (thalia.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.11]) by chm ail.ch.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05638 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:43:49 -0700 Subject: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula > >---------- >From: MikeTurner@xxx.com >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 10:46:44 AM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula >Auto forwarded by a Rule > Would you have an address, phone number, or email address for "Surplus Center" you could post? To: diy_efi @ INTERNET, owner-diy_efi-outgoing @ INTERNET cc: From: Terry Sare @ INTERNET Date: 06/16/97 11:39:14 AM Subject: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Company called "Surplus Center" had a complete small axle assembly with two motors and a pump built into it. They only wanted $700 for it.:-( Would mount up neatly to go kart. They also had surplus hydraulic motors, pumps, etc. Terry ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:46:59 -0700 Subject: FW: REJECTED: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 10:49:46 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: REJECTED: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula > >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: MAILER-DAEMON@xxx.ceo >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 7:11:54 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: REJECTED: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula > >Auto forwarded by a Rule > ----- Mail rejected by CEO. ----- (CEO_POA) Recipient's inbox is full. Mail not sent to:oecar1@xxx.ceo ----- Unsent message follows ----- From: kharper3@xxx.com To: diy_efi@xxx.edu Subject: FW: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula > >---------- >From: Terry Sare >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 7:10:00 AM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu; >owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu >Subject: Re[2]: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula >Auto forwarded by a Rule > Company called "Surplus Center" had a complete small axle assembly with two motors and a pump built into it. They only wanted $700 for it.:-( Would mount up neatly to go kart. They also had surplus hydraulic motors, pumps, etc. Terry ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Hydrualic pressure to HP formula Author: owner-diy_efi-outgoing@xxx.edu at dell_unix Date: 6/16/97 7:04 AM I am figuring out the parts to make a fluid drive for a go-cart. Have a couple of ideas for transmissions and want to try them out. Dan L > >What's formula for converting hydraulic pressure into horspower? For > >instance, at 24 Gallons/Min @ 2300 PSI, what's the equivalent > >horsepower? > > 32.205 HP > > HP = PSI X GPM / 1714 > > Err, whatcha makin? > > Happy motoring, > > Steve Delanty (sdelanty@xxx.net) > > 1971 F100, FE390, T-18 4-speed shortbox. ------------------------------ From: "Harper, Kevin" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:52:14 -0700 Subject: FW: REJECTED: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > >---------- >From: Harper, Kevin >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 10:49:44 AM >To: 'diy_efi@xxx.edu' >Subject: FW: REJECTED: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > >---------- >From: MAILER-DAEMON@xxx.ceo >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 7:00:58 AM >To: Harper, Kevin >Subject: REJECTED: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > >Auto forwarded by a Rule > ----- Mail rejected by CEO. ----- (CEO_POA) Recipient's inbox is full. Mail not sent to:oecar1@xxx.ceo ----- Unsent message follows ----- From: kharper3@xxx.com To: diy_efi@xxx.edu Subject: FW: 307kW "Factory" engines.. > >---------- >From: Ross Myers >Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 4:41:53 PM >To: diy_efi@xxx.edu >Subject: Re: 307kW "Factory" engines.. >Auto forwarded by a Rule > > > Subject: RE: DIY_EFI Digest V2 #197 > > > > They still build the power machines in Australia. Get the new GMH HSV GTR, > > stroked 305 to produce a 217kw 350 engine, get the optional APS supercharger > > kit fitted and you have a 307kw engine with massive torque straight from the > > factory line. As has been said before I don't think the GM factory will fit a APS charger on the assembly line, and it's not a 305 (Chev), it's a 304 or 308 (Can't remember when they switched) Holden V8. As for 307kW, I reckon this is underrated, I saw one of those APS charged cars at our local street drag meets and it was running low 12.3 from memory, in a car that must weigh at least 3600lbs. Must take more power than that. Either way it's till a $65,000+ investment. Bye Ross Myers Melbourne, Australia ponty@xxx.au * Getting those who tell it like it is * * Won't make the problems go away * ---Jello Biafra--- ------------------------------ End of DIY_EFI Digest V2 #204 ***************************** To subscribe to DIY_EFI-Digest, send the command: subscribe diy_efi-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@xxx. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace "diy_efi-digest" in the command above with "diy_efi".