DIY_EFI Digest Thursday, August 12 1999 Volume 04 : Number 464 In this issue: Re: Designing Engine Management See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the DIY_EFI or DIY_EFI-Digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 04:33:50 +1000 From: Phil Lamovie Subject: Re: Designing Engine Management Hi All, James MacKenzie wrote: > engine is fully managed from a laptop computer < Seems like everyone is designing an engine management system today ! It would be great if some of you would get together and pick a common platform. Makes it much easier to help a group of you and the open source nature should help you attract others. On the other hand sometime it does sound like "I have learnt to write so now I'm going to write a book about lion taming." It's probably best to spend your first year or so investigating engine design issues then you will be in a position to asses current technology and methodology of engine management. The care and feeding of an engine is a technology neutral issue. You can't design a carby without having a reasonable grasp of the physics of IC engines and the chemistry of combustion. Same goes for writing code for an embedded engine management application. The most common pitfalls are not coming to terms with writing "real time" applications and how very "real time" the engine management game is. There is a quite a difference between the operating systems used for real time applications and "some time applications" Have a look at a simple Motorola 68hc11 and see if you can duplicate it's functions in the operating system you are hoping to use. If you can good. If not then the laptop is out. I can't emphasize strongly enough the need to come to terms with the IC engine (the client) before you choose a solution (platform/software) Motorola offer vast amounts of knowledge in the interface/circuit design area that would be a good start. then... > Does anyone have a good document or website which describes basics / > details of the engine management system including the fuel maps? On the Engine Management side things are a lot more difficult. Those who know how it all works will seldom tell you as it's often proprietary information. Like asking M$ for their source code. Most people work it out from friends and mail lists and backwards engineering a couple of factory units. The problem is understanding the reasoning behind the decisions. Why do Delco/Delphi have 309 sets of tables in their ECU. What is bloatware and what is really required ? What is the second pressure sensor in the Honda for ? Let us know what you find out ? Can a 300mHz 32 bit wintel run an engine ? Regards Phil Lamovie injec@xxx.au cogito ergo zoom ------------------------------ End of DIY_EFI Digest V4 #464 ***************************** To subscribe to DIY_EFI-Digest, send the command: subscribe diy_efi-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@xxx. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace "diy_efi-digest" in the command above with "diy_efi".