DIY_EFI Digest Sunday, February 6 2000 Volume 05 : Number 054 In this issue: Re: Vega Vegas and other losers Re: Vegas and other losers See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the DIY_EFI or DIY_EFI-Digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 06:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: Carter Shore Subject: Re: Vega Actually Steve, I believe that you have captured the essence perfectly. :) > I thought I understood this engine, now I'm just > confused. Am I > supposed to drink the other 8 beers? Did GM > engineers drink too many > beers before they built an engine out of pine and > beer cans? :-) > - --steve There's a thought, hand carve the block from rock maple, with iron liners. Or if you've got lots of time, wrap some saplings around the liners, and wait a few years for the wood to grow around them. Wups, sounds like I drank the other 8 beers already... Carter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from diy_efi, send "unsubscribe diy_efi" (without the quotes) in the body of a message (not the subject) to majordomo@xxx.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 08:54:37 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Davies Subject: Vegas and other losers On Sat, 5 Feb 2000, DIY_EFI Digest wrote: > > Years ago in Vancouver a guy named Bill Philips was experimenting with camless > engines. He used a rotary valve driven by a timing belt off the crank. I don't > know if it > worked out I think he could not get the rotary valves to seal. His application was > on a > blown alcohol hemi. > If you check patent abstracts from 1900 to about 1950 or so you will find any variation you can think of [and a lot you can't imagine] Most were losers, some were winners that sidelined for various reasons. Some of it still exists, if only for military reasons. One of my favorites is the Junkers Torpedo 8, an all aluminum, disc valve blown V8 that ran on alky, O2 and 100% EGR. Designed by Felix Wankel. - ---------------------------------------------- > the assembly together. The long head bolts on the Vega > connected the stiff iron head to the main bearing > saddles. The block was cast from a special high > silicon (carbide?) content alloy. After machining, the > bores had to be etched, revealing the hard crystalline > wear surface of the silicon. The alloy was Alcoa 390 and honing wore away the aluminum, leaving a silicone wear surface for the piston. This was done using standard Sunnen honing equipment, although the stones and oil were different. It was a good process and worked well, although it was always blamed for the engine problems Vegas had. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from diy_efi, send "unsubscribe diy_efi" (without the quotes) in the body of a message (not the subject) to majordomo@xxx.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:43:59 -0700 From: bearbvd@xxx.net (Greg Hermann) Subject: Re: Vegas and other losers >If you check patent abstracts from 1900 to about 1950 or so you will find >any variation you can think of [and a lot you can't imagine] Most were >losers, some were winners that sidelined for various reasons. Some of >it still exists, if only for military reasons. One of my favorites is the >Junkers Torpedo 8, an all aluminum, disc valve blown V8 that ran on >alky, O2 and 100% EGR. Designed by Felix Wankel. > Submariners don't call rot gut booze "torpedo juice" for nothing!! Greg - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from diy_efi, send "unsubscribe diy_efi" (without the quotes) in the body of a message (not the subject) to majordomo@xxx.org ------------------------------ End of DIY_EFI Digest V5 #54 **************************** To subscribe to DIY_EFI-Digest, send the command: subscribe diy_efi-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@xxx. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace "diy_efi-digest" in the command above with "diy_efi".