Selection ( R,W,M,K,F,S,Q,E,A,Z,I,H,?=help ): r Enter message number to start with, F for the first message, L for the last, or ? for help: f Date: Wednesday, October 9, 1996 12:44pm Electronic Mail From: INT:dboomsma@sci.kun.nl Msg#: 49978 To: Sysop Re: Re: fv unshk..but... Brad, I don't know prosel - I don't own it. What you FIRST have to do, is edit the file in the dir /packages/ called METAL.CONFIG. Change the dir names to reflect your system. You deleted the files in the /bin folder, or in the /cibdir/ ?? Don't delete them from the /bin folder, because they are compiled ones; the sources have gone, like netscripter, message base and a few other things... Well, I hope this helps; i can't imagine it not working OK, since I recently bought a new hard disk drive for my GS, and copied the BBS system to the new drive.. it WAS called /hd1, and the bbs partition is now called /bbs. I only changed the metal.config file. (N)onstop, (Q)uit, or (C)ontinue? -= Doede = (R)eply, (E)rase, (C)opy, (F)orward, (B)acktrack, (P)revious, or (N)ext? e <<< CONFIRMED: MESSAGE #49978 ERASED >>> Date: Thursday, October 10, 1996 7:33am Electronic Mail From: INT:dboomsma@sci.kun.nl Msg#: 49993 To: Sysop Re: RO |i managed to get past the metal 8 screen by changing my hardrive name |to |/bbs | |it compiles everything with last item 1/moses/event | batch compile complete etc etc | | then this error comes up | | |Metal Error - Global Label not found at $0004A1 ($30A1) | |and i let it sit for 5 min and then this error came up |N)onstop, (Q)uit, or (C)ontinue? |Metal Error= End of Program at $000203 ($3003) | |with restart quit options line at top...i'll look at that Okay, I think I know what it is. After starting metal, the program PRECOMPILE will automatically run. This is OK. After it has been compiled (hit spacebar to stop compiling/ checking if compiling is needed), the file 1/STARTUP.S will be executed. This is in the 1/ dir, and the program will only look at 1/ and not search for partitions, etc. This is located in the metal.config file. Let me see, here is the part you need: ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ! ! Metal Paths (predefined for use in future vision) PATH0= PATH1= PATH2= PATH3= PATH4=or (C)ontinue? PATH5= PATH6= PATH7= PATH8= PATH9= DEFINCPATH=<1/I> ! Default include path (need for FV5.0) CIBDIR= ! Keep compiled code seperate from segs CREATEDIRS ! Create any directories that are missing ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ! This is what you have to change to reflect your system. Do you have everything working OK now? Oh, and I talked to #1@#54, Dave, and he said you have to REMOVE the /bin directory. This IS being compiled, and is NOT needed for first time runners. Try removing that one and re-starting metal. You can also press OA-T to trace the stuff. Option will let it slow down.. you can check what global file it is going to look for. BTW, does the screen show up that says: FV 4.1 checking bla bla loading blah bla etc..? |i hit options but just hung... | | |what is a way to just run config.s if i don't manage to make it to the |config area..... Go to Maintenance (^), then to maint. 3 (3) and then L from Link to module, with global label "configure". Also, be sure that THERE IS NO 2/USER.DATA file!!! If it IS in there, it will NOT run configure. Configure doesn't look at s and d numbers, it will only use prefixes and look for them itself. That's the way metal works. It might be that there still is a 2/user.data file in the archive. For now, you can just DELETE the comlete 5/ (urs) dir, the /bin dir, the 6/ dir (messages), 7 dir, 8 dir and 9 dir... Try this, it may work. If not, I'll have to check out more... We could go into a chat this friday night, ok? I have to work till 5 AM, and then I could telnet into your system. Check out the time lag, maybe it's 7 or 8 hours, so that it'll be around 11 PM your time to chat and try.. .you try, tell me what's going on and I'll try to help... good idea? |it was 4,2 and i moved it to slot 7,1.....i'll move it to slot 6 if you |think that is the problem...but it should not be... No, slots and drives don't have a thing to do with metal. It's the pure prefixes... N)onstop, (Q)uit, or (C)ontinue? |the defaults in metal.config...are the same as yours in metal config. |as |far as i can tell..i use the same /bbs/fv/iebs kinda thing that is how |i unshk it Is your BBS structure like this: /bbs/fv/ 0 packages/ 1 iebs/ i/ utils/ xtras/ games/ mpt/ 2 system/ system.news/ statx/ games/ quotes/ infolib/ who/nue? votes/ bin/ docs/ 3 menus/ help/ 6 msgs/ 4 net/ fnetpublic/ sites/ privatespool/ 5 usr/ 8 xfers/ 7 logs/ This is my setup (roughly). There may be a few more dirs in there. The numbers in from of it are NOT included, they represent the shortcuts that FV uses to access the dirs. The shortcuts are completely entered in the metal.config file, like I showed above. |unless it is the modem, my transwarp gs by applied engineering...(which |i doubt) or something i should set for config.s I don't think so. To ignore the modem, simply change the metal.config file here: MODEM= ! Hayes, Usr, No, Generic !MODEM= What you do, is this: turn off the modem = generic modem by putting an ! in front of it and removing the other one, like this: !MODEM= ! Hayes, Usr, No, Generic MODEM= Then your modem is ignored... could speed up things a bit.. but it doesn't have to do with the global labels. Hope this helps alot :) -= Doede = (R)eply, (E)rase, (C)opy, (F)orward, (B)acktrack, (P)revious, or (N)ext? p You have reached the start of these messages. (N)ext message, (R)e-read this message, or e(X)it? r |i managed to get past the metal 8 screen by changing my hardrive name |to |/bbs | |it compiles everything with last item 1/moses/event | batch compile complete etc etc | | then this error comes up | | |Metal Error - Global Label not found at $0004A1 ($30A1) | |and i let it sit for 5 min and then this error came up | |Metal Error= End of Program at $000203 ($3003) | |with restart quit options line at top...i'll look at that N)onstop, (Q)uit, or (C)ontinue? Okay, I think I know what it is. After starting metal, the program PRECOMPILE will automatically run. This is OK. After it has been compiled (hit spacebar to stop compiling/ checking if compiling is needed), the file 1/STARTUP.S will be executed. This is in the 1/ dir, and the program will only look at 1/ and not search for partitions, etc. This is located in the metal.config file. Let me see, here is the part you need: ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ! ! Metal Paths (predefined for use in future vision) PATH0= PATH1= PATH2= PATH3= PATH4= PATH5= PATH6= PATH7= PATH8= PATH9= DEFINCPATH=<1/I> ! Default include path (need for FV5.0) CIBDIR= ! Keep compiled code seperate from segs CREATEDIRS ! Create any directories that are missing ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ! This is what you have to change to reflect your system. Do you have everything working OK now? Oh, and I talked to #1@#54, Dave, and he said you have to REMOVE the /bin directory. This IS being compiled, and is NOT needed for first time runners. Try removing that one and re-starting metal. You can also press OA-T to trace the stuff. Option will let it slow down.. you can check what global file it is going to look for. BTW, does the screen show up that says: FV 4.1 checking bla bla loading blah bla etc..? |i hit options but just hung... | | |what is a way to just run config.s if i don't manage to make it to the |config area..... Go to Maintenance (^), then to maint. 3 (3) and then L from Link to module, with global label "configure". Also, be sure that THERE IS NO 2/USER.DATA file!!! If it IS in there, it will NOT run configure. Configure doesn't look at s and d numbers, it will only use prefixes and look for them itself. That's the way metal works. It might be that there still is a 2/user.data file in the archive. For now, you can just DELETE the comlete 5/ (urs) dir, the /bin dir, the 6/ dir (messages), 7 dir, 8 dir and 9 dir... Try this, it may work. If not, I'll have to check out more... We could go into a chat this friday night, ok? I have to work till 5 AM, and then I could telnet into your system. Check out the time lag, maybe it's 7 or 8 hours, so that it'll be around 11 PM your time to chat and try.. .you try, tell me what's going on and I'll try to help... good idea? |it was 4,2 and i moved it to slot 7,1.....i'll move it to slot 6 if you |think that is the problem...but it should not be... No, slots and drives don't have a thing to do with metal. It's the pure prefixes... |the defaults in metal.config...are the same as yours in metal config. |as |far as i can tell..i use the same /bbs/fv/iebs kinda thing that is how |i unshk it Is your BBS structure like this: /bbs/fv/ 0 packages/ 1 iebs/ i/ utils/ xtras/ games/ mpt/ 2 system/ system.news/ statx/ games/ quotes/ infolib/ who/ votes/ bin/ docs/ 3 menus/ help/ 6 msgs/ 4 net/ fnetpublic/ sites/ privatespool/ 5 usr/ 8 xfers/ 7 logs/ This is my setup (roughly). There may be a few more dirs in there. The numbers in from of it are NOT included, they represent the shortcuts that FV uses to access the dirs. The shortcuts are completely entered in the metal.config file, like I showed above. |unless it is the modem, my transwarp gs by applied engineering...(which |i doubt) or something i should set for config.s I don't think so. To ignore the modem, simply change the metal.config file here: MODEM= ! Hayes, Usr, No, Generic !MODEM= What you do, is this: turn off the modem = generic modem by putting an ! in front of it and removing the other one, like this: !MODEM= ! Hayes, Usr, No, Generic MODEM= Then your modem is ignored... could speed up things a bit.. but it doesn't have to do with the global labels. Hope this helps alot :) -= Doede =