America Online APPLE II DEVELOPMENT FORUM CONFERENCE LOG Tuesday, June 8, 1993 10:00 p.m. Eastern Time Topic: ADV Trivia Event! Forum Leader: Gary Jacobson (AFL GaryJ) AFL GaryJ Welcome to the Apple II Development Forum! AFL GaryJ Tonight, we're doing something extra special. We decided that we AFL GaryJ would celebrate the end of school and final exams by having AFL GaryJ another exam tonight! (Yea!) Back, by popular demand AFL GaryJ (as decided by the ADV staff :), we're going to play...... AFL GaryJ the ADV Trivia game! AFL GaryJ AFA Jay will be hosting our event tonight, and in a moment he'll be AFL GaryJ instructing us on how the game is played. I'd like to thank him and AFL GaryJ AFC DYAJim for their preparation for tonights event. (applause :) AFL GaryJ We'll be playing two rounds of questions this evening, and the ADV staff will AFL GaryJ be keeping score. At the end of each round we will award two free hours of AFL Marty I was hoping for Vanna White. AFL GaryJ online time to the first place (eligible) winner, and one free hour to the AFL GaryJ second place (eligible) winner. We will also give away one hour of online AFL GaryJ time at random as the night progresses. AFL GaryJ (Matt can be the "judge" in case there is a dispute as to the correct AFL GaryJ answer :) AFL GaryJ With that said, I'll turn the time over to our host tonight, AFA Jay! AFA Jay :) AFA Jay OK! It's been a long time since I've done a Trivia game...I hope I'm AFA Jay not too rusty :) AFA Jay Tonight's game, as Gary mentioned, will be played in two rounds. AFA Jay Each round has 4 categories, with 6 questions in each category. AFA Jay For the first round, the categories will be: AFA Jay Topics: Round One AFA Jay 1. Programming Languages AFA Jay 2. "Green" People AFA Jay 3. System Software AFA Jay 4. Which Reference Manual AFA Jay And for #2... AFA Jay Topics: Round Two AFA Jay 1. Programming Utilities AFA Jay 2. The Toolbox AFA Jay 3. Operating Systems AFA Jay 4. Soft Switches & Entry Points AFA Jay A correct answer, before the buzzer, will earn ONE point AFA Jay An incorrect answer will not be penalized. AFA Jay There will be 5 bonus questions during the night... AFA Jay those will be worth 3 points to the first person with a correct answer AFA Jay To start the game I'll just throw out the first question in the first AFA Jay category...Programming Languages. AFA Jay ready? AFL GaryJ (By the way.... EVERYONE can play, but only eligible people can win hours) DanP18 ? DanP18 Protocol for answering, i assume? AFA Jay Just yell out the answer when you see the question! DanP18 OK AFA Jay This will be very unstructured, compared to our usual queue stuff :) AFA Jay First question! AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What C function sorts an array? Sheppy qsort James S WI qsort() AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< James S WI *&^%$^%$ AFA Jay ANSWER: qsort() AFL GaryJ Hmmm.... should we check syntax? :) AFA Jay Ok, points to both of you, but Sheppy gets to select the next question :) AFA Jay Shep? Sheppy Uh, Languages is fine. AFA Jay okey :) AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What is the hexadecimal value for a JMP operand? DanP18 4c AFL GaryJ Hmmm.. I thought everyone would get this one :) AFA Jay (so did I!) AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFC DYAJim (ditto:) AFA Jay ANSWER: $4C GNO Jawaid dan got it AFL GaryJ Ahem.... EVERYONE can play! AFA Jay OK Dan, select the next question: AFA Jay Topics: Round One AFA Jay 1. Programming Languages AFA Jay 2. "Green" People AFA Jay 3. System Software AFA Jay 4. Which Reference Manual DanP18 Green people AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > "GREEN" PEOPLE AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay Who is the original author of the Control Panel NDA? AFC DYAJim so long ago..! AFL Marty Daryl Lovato James S WI Michael Stein AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< GNO Jawaid Apple COmputer, Inc? :) AFA Jay ANSWER: Darryl Lovato AFA Jay WTG Marty! Please select :) AFL Marty ::surprise:: AFL Marty I forgot the categories AFA Jay Topics: Round One AFA Jay 1. Programming Languages AFA Jay 2. "Green" People AFA Jay 3. System Software AFA Jay 4. Which Reference Manual Developer1 mart, pick 1 :D AFL Marty System Software Developer1 hehe AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > SYSTEM SOFTWARE AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay On which System Software 6.0 Distribution Disk would AFA Jay one find the file Apple.Bowl? DanP18 Fonts Sheppy fonts James S WI Fonts AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay ANSWER: Fonts Disk AFA Jay Dan, please select. DanP18 4 AFA Jay 4. Which Reference Manual :) AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > WHICH REFERENCE MANUAL AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What Apple reference manual contained the complete AFA Jay source listing to the Dragon Maze program? AFL GaryJ (Oldies, but goodies :) AFA Jay :) DanP18 red book? James S WI Apple II Users Guide Developer1 AppleSoft Reference :D AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay ANSWER: Apple II Reference Manual, aka The Red Book! AFL GaryJ Got it, Dan :) AFA Jay WTG Dan! Select again! DanP18 3 AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > SYSTEM SOFTWARE AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What is the KVERSION for ProDOS 8 v2.0.1? AFA Jay (a toughie) GNO Jawaid Gack! Sheppy $21? AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< James S WI 11 AFA Jay ANSWER: $21 AFA Jay WHY did you know that? :) AFL GaryJ :) Sheppy Guess. Really. Developer1 or more to the point HOW. GNO Jawaid he guessed :) Sheppy Languages. AFA Jay Thanks :) AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What command in Integer BASIC will display the values AFA Jay of a specified variable as your program is run? Sheppy dsp on James S WI print AFL GaryJ Wow, another oldie :) AFA Jay the old ">" prompt :) AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay ANSWER: DSP AFC DYAJim (And Eric pulls into the lead with 4 points..) AFA Jay Select again, Shep! Sheppy system software AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > SYSTEM SOFTWARE AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What tellFinder code tells the Finder to execute a AFA Jay menu-based action? GNO Jawaid tellFinderJustDoIT AFL Marty tellFinderSimonSays Developer1 LOL AFC DYAJim tellFinderExecuteMenuBasedAction DanP18 tellFinderMItemSelected AFL GaryJ :) Sheppy tellFinderMItemSelected AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay ANSWER: tellFinderMItemSelected AFL GaryJ Good going, Dan and Sheppy! AFA Jay Alright! Dan gets to select next, BUT, first... AFA Jay let's do a BONUS question! AFL Marty Oh no! A bonus! AFL GaryJ (Oh no! :) AFA Jay 3, yes, that's right, THREE points to the first correct answer! AFA Jay _____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > BONUS QUESTION!!! AFA Jay _____________________________________ AFA Jay *** FIRST CORRECT ANSWER RECEIVES *** AFA Jay *** THREE ADDITIONAL POINTS!! *** AFA Jay AFA Jay The very first issue of SOFTTALK magazine featured an AFA Jay article about the Apple II computer being used in the AFA Jay making of what Hollywood movie? AFA AndyW Star Wars AFL GaryJ James S WI T2 ;) AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sheppy Tron :) AFA Jay ANSWER: Star Wars! AFC DYAJim go andy Sheppy WTG, Andy. AFA Jay 3 points for Andy! AFL GaryJ Great, Andy! AFA Jay Dan selects next, however :) AFA Jay Topics: Round One AFA Jay 1. Programming Languages AFA Jay 2. "Green" People AFA Jay 3. System Software AFA Jay 4. Which Reference Manual DanP18 4 AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > WHICH REFERENCE MANUAL AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay Which reference book has diagrams showing how AFA Jay jump tables work? DanP18 toolbox ref 2 AFA Jay nope... try again :) Sheppy GS/OS Ref. James S WI GS/OS Reference Sheppy Technotes... Developer1 oxford french dictionary AFA Jay not quite... :) AFL GaryJ :) Developer1 oh whoops. :D AFC DYAJim anyone? AFA AndyW Programmers Intro? AFA Jay any other guesses? Developer1 tb ref 1 :D AFL GaryJ Matt? AFC DYAJim I've got the book :) bought it way before I knew how to program (foreshadowing James S WI A Touch Of Applesoft BASIC. AFL GaryJ (You want to take a guess? :) Matt DTS Don't look at me. :) AFA Jay Ah well, we'll just have to... AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay throw this one out :) AFA Jay ANSWER: ProDOS 16 Reference!!!!!!!!!! AFL GaryJ Oooohhh.. AFA AndyW <- doesn't have it. AFC DYAJim see it's good for something after all! Sheppy I was gonna say that... :) AFA Jay Andy, since you got the bonus, you can select this time :) James S WI <- Have it but never read it. AFA AndyW List? AFA Jay Topics: Round One AFA Jay 1. Programming Languages AFA Jay 2. "Green" People AFA Jay 3. System Software AFA Jay 4. Which Reference Manual AFA AndyW 1 AFA Jay Languages, alright! AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What is the 6502/65816 opcode that means: AFA Jay "Set Decimal Mode"? DanP18 SED AFA AndyW SED James S WI SED AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sheppy sed AFA Jay ANSWER: SED AFA AndyW Got IMd out of that one! AFA Jay You still got the point, though, Andy :) AFC DYAJim Eric and Dan are tied. AFA Jay Dan, select again :) AFC DYAJim (5 poits each) DanP18 2 AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > "GREEN" PEOPLE AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay Who started the animation toolkit? AFL Marty Jim Mensch Sheppy mensch AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay ANSWER: Jim Mensch James S WI Woz AFA Jay WTG Marty & Shep! AFA Jay Let's do one more question before we finish this round :) James S WI Eric, just type in the answers sooner. :) AFA Jay Marty, please select ;) AFL GaryJ Sheppy pulls ahead :) AFL Marty Green People, please. Sheppy Mmm, before asked? AFA Jay okey :) AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > "GREEN" PEOPLE AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay Who is the product manager of the Apple Programmer's Workshop? DanP18 Tim Swihart Sheppy Nobody! AFA AndyW Resource Central (now) AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sheppy (Man... Dan's answer, like, came up at the same time as the question. :) AFA Jay ANSWER: Tim Swithart (Is this still a correct answer, Matt?) AFC DYAJim an Dan and Eric are tied once more Matt DTS As close to a PM as APW has, yeah. :) AFL GaryJ It was at the time. I guess it should have been WAS :) AFA Jay okey... AFA Jay Let's do another Bonus question...3 points to the first correct :) AFA Jay _____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > BONUS QUESTION!!! AFA Jay _____________________________________ AFA Jay *** FIRST CORRECT ANSWER RECEIVES *** AFA Jay *** THREE ADDITIONAL POINTS!! *** AFA Jay AFA Jay What is the newest library to be added to ADV? AFL GaryJ :) AFA AndyW BW AFL Marty New Files AFA AndyW Byte Works AFL GaryJ Nope Sheppy ByteWorks AFA Jay library--where files go :) AFL GaryJ Nope AFC DYAJim Library. not message board AFL Marty Pirated Software Sheppy Ah. AFA AndyW Byte Works HAS a library AFL GaryJ Close, Marty :) AFA Jay But it's not the latest :) AFL Marty :) DanP18 America online add-on library AFA AndyW Add on AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay ANSWER: America Online Add-on Library AFA Jay 3 points to Dan! AFC DYAJim and Dan gets the lead by 3 points! AFL GaryJ Wow, Dan. Great! :) Developer1 what the heck is the AOL add on library? Sheppy Wait. It's here? I never saw it, and I've been looking for it. :) AFA Jay :) AFA AndyW Add ons for the AOL software.. AFC DYAJim not like there are mahy files in it :) AFL GaryJ :) DanP18 just 1 Developer1 ah yes of course :D AFA AndyW Yeah.. AFL Marty Look in it and find out, Evan:) DanP18 soundmaster AFL GaryJ But it DOES exist! AFL GaryJ Recap? AFA Jay Ok, can we get a quick run-down of the halftime totals? AFL GaryJ Do you have the points, Jim? (I have them too) AFC DYAJim yes AFC DYAJim James - 3 AFC DYAJim Eric - 6 AFC DYAJim Dan - 9 AFC DYAJim Andy - 4 AFC DYAJim Marty - 2 AFL GaryJ Dan gets two free hours! AFL GaryJ (Assuming you are eligible... please let me know if anyone 1st or 2nd is not elibible) AFA Jay Well, I think we should continue :) AFL GaryJ And Sheppy gets 1 free hour. AFA Jay Set all the scores back to zero for round #2! AFL GaryJ Clean slate! AFA Jay Ok.... AFA Jay Topics: Round Two AFA Jay 1. Programming Utilities AFA Jay 2. The Toolbox AFA Jay 3. Operating Systems AFA Jay 4. Soft Switches & Entry Points AFA Jay We'll let Dan select first, since he won the last round :) DanP18 4 AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > SOFT SWITCHES AFA Jay & ENTRY POINTS AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay If you were programming in Applesoft, what significance AFA Jay would the location 1013 (in decmial) be to you? DanP18 warm start vector Sheppy htab AFA AndyW & vector AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< James S WI Ampersand vector AFA Jay ANSWER: Ampersand (&) JMP Vector Matt DTS Jay's IQ * 100. :) James S WI !@#$%6 AFL GaryJ Marty :) AFA AndyW Nifty List to the rescue! AFA Jay Ok Andy, please select ;) AFA AndyW 1 AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > PROGRAMMING UTILITIES AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay Using the "Nifty List" CDA with the "Goodies" module, AFA Jay what command would you issue to find out the meaning AFA Jay of error code $0911? Sheppy \errors AFA AndyW \err DanP18 \errors AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFL GaryJ Specifically! $0911 Matt DTS 911\err AFA Jay close enough ;) James S WI \err AFA Jay ANSWER: 0911\err AFC DYAJim No such command: \ERRORS AFL GaryJ Matt had it (late) DanP18 ?Nifty what? AFC DYAJim ok, points awarded Sheppy Wouldn't know -- memorized error codes. (kidding...) AFC Softy \error \error \faulty \imperfect >BOOM!< AFA Jay Who did you give it to, Jim? James S WI lol DanP18 0911 adb failure AFC DYAJim are we using half points? :) AFL GaryJ Does \err list all errors? AFA Jay if you want to keep track of them :) AFL GaryJ (We need a ruling on that last question) AFC DYAJim yes it does, Gary. AFC DYAJim so technically nobody got it right :) AFA AndyW YES! Sheppy That would work, then. AFC DYAJim ok, half points for all ? AFL GaryJ It's an acceptable answer then. AFA Jay Alright....... AFA Jay Since Andy was the closest, we'll let him select again :) AFC DYAJim .5 eric/dan, 1 andy AFA AndyW 1 again DanP18 none for me, i cheated. AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > PROGRAMMING UTILITIES AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What is the current version of Apple's GSBug AFA Jay debugging utility? Sheppy 1.6 James S WI 1.6 DanP18 1.6 AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay ANSWER: v1.6 AFA Jay Shep, please select :) AFA Jay Topics: Round Two AFA Jay 1. Programming Utilities AFA Jay 2. The Toolbox AFA Jay 3. Operating Systems AFA Jay 4. Soft Switches & Entry Points AFA AndyW But, I don't have 1.6 any more! :/ AFL GaryJ Points to sheppy, James, and Dan Sheppy list, please. Sheppy 2 AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > THE TOOLBOX AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What tool set, besides the Tool Locator and Memory AFA Jay Manager does the Note Synthesizer need started before AFA Jay it is started? AFA AndyW Sound tools Sheppy Sound Tools DanP18 Sound tools AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Barnabas Wrong. James S WI Sound Tools Sheppy (yes, it is, huh?) :) AFA Jay ANSWER: Sound Tool Set AFA Jay Please select, Andy. AFL GaryJ Points to Andy, Sheppy, and Dan AFA AndyW 4 AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > SOFT SWITCHES AFA Jay & ENTRY POINTS AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What is the result of a POKE -16304,0 in AppleSoft? DanP18 hires pg 1 display Sheppy system death :) James S WI Graphics mode AFL GaryJ Buz? Sheppy <-- don't know 'em in decimal AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA AndyW Gr AFA Jay ok..wait a sec here :) AFC DYAJim that's what visit monitor is for eric :) AFL GaryJ Hmmm... AFA Jay Page 1 is $C054 (-16300) Matt DTS Or ` in Nifty List. AFC DYAJim I can't get ` to do it Matt AFL GaryJ Technically, only graphics mode is correct AFA Jay -16304 activates graphics mode AFA Jay ANSWER: Graphics mode AFC DYAJim points to James AFC DYAJim half point to Dan Sheppy Then that's the right answer. AFA Jay Ok James, please select :) James S WI 4 AFL GaryJ (That's fair) DanP18 no. I know the difference, i just got it wrong. AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > SOFT SWITCHES AFA Jay & ENTRY POINTS AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What is the hex address for the ADB Status register? AFA Jay another NiftyList one :) James S WI C025 AFC DYAJim :) DanP18 c026 AFA AndyW c027 AFL GaryJ :) Sheppy $c027 AFL GaryJ Do I hear 28? AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA AndyW Nope.. 27 AFL GaryJ Sold! To Andy and Sheppy! AFA Jay ANSWER: $C027 AFL GaryJ :) AFA AndyW 25 is the modifiers AFA Jay Ok, let's do a Bonus question... :) AFA AndyW 26 is data James S WI It's the only ADB address I know. :) AFA AndyW ready! AFA Jay This one's worth 3 points... AFC DYAJim points to Eric, Andy AFA Jay (#3 for those with answer sheets) ;) DanP18 hey, i knew that one! AFL GaryJ :) AFA Jay _____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > BONUS QUESTION!!! AFA Jay _____________________________________ AFA Jay *** FIRST CORRECT ANSWER RECEIVES *** AFA Jay *** THREE ADDITIONAL POINTS!! *** AFA Jay AFA Jay How many CATEGORIES (i.e. different boards) are now AFA Jay available from the root level of "Let's Discuss...", AFA Jay here in ADV? Matt DTS 4265 AFC DYAJim pi AFL GaryJ Oooh, a toughie :) AFA Jay e :) AFC DYAJim 2^-12 Sheppy 18. DanP18 16 AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA AndyW 16 AFA Jay ANSWER: 16! Sheppy (nasty question. points all around!) AFL GaryJ ROOT level (square roots) AFL GaryJ Good answer, Dan! AFA Jay Right there under Categories in Let's Discuss! AFL GaryJ (How did you know that? Just counted? :) AFC DYAJim and Dan is in the lead again! with 5.5 pts AFA AndyW Slow node killed me! Sheppy Mmm, right, yeah... DanP18 pulled it up and looked. AFA Jay WTG Dan! But Andy selects from the last question :) James S WI I need a faster computer. :( Sheppy Without leaving the chat? Wow? DanP18 did i get my points for $co27? AFA AndyW 1 AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > PROGRAMMING UTILITIES AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay The words "!Andy, it finally has history!" appear AFA Jay in what popular utility? AFA Jay E-Z! :) James S WI Nifty List AFA AndyW NL AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay ANSWER: Nifty List AFA Jay Please select, James James S WI 4 AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > SOFT SWITCHES AFA Jay & ENTRY POINTS AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay Typing 'E1/006Cx' from the Apple IIGS monitor will AFA Jay produce what result? AFA AndyW Bellvect Sheppy bell AFA AndyW Returns bell vector AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFC DYAJim blip bleep buzz you-should-be-using-sysbeep-not-bell-vector-on-GS :) Matt DTS "Bonk!" (or other appropriate sound as set up by the Sound CP) AFL GaryJ Matt's correct AFC DYAJim pts to andy, eric AFA Jay ANSWER: You get a Bonk or your Control Panel sound :) AFC DYAJim wait, half point to andy :) AFA AndyW Huh? AFL GaryJ It doesn't return the bell vect, but it makes the bell SOUND. AFC DYAJim you don't get a bellvector, you get a noise AFA AndyW If you type e1/006Cn, you just see the bell vector.. AFA Jay Ok, why don't we give 1 to Shep, and 1/2 to Andy :) AFA AndyW Try it! AFC DYAJim that's what I said AFA Jay Please select, Shep Sheppy 2 AFC DYAJim it's e1/006cX AFL GaryJ Andy, it was e1/006cX AFL GaryJ (yeah, what Jim said :) AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > THE TOOLBOX AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay Name the QuickDraw II call that is used to turn AFA Jay OFF the Super Hi-Res graphics mode. DanP18 GraffOff James S WI GrafOff() Sheppy GrafOff AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Matt DTS GrafOn, GrafOff -- the Graffer! AFC DYAJim pts to all 3 AFA Jay ANSWER: _GrafOff, GrafOff(), whatever your language is :) Sheppy Wow, Dan, how do you do that? I didn't even see the question before your Sheppy answer appeared. I think Jay's feeding 'em too you. :) AFA Jay Dan, please select (this will be the last question) DanP18 Foolish mortals. You know not who toys with you! DanP18 4 Sheppy :) AFL GaryJ :) AFA Jay Hmmm, which one of these should I ask for the last question. James S WI The next one AFA Jay I'll do the last one :) Sheppy Yes AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > SOFT SWITCHES AFA Jay & ENTRY POINTS AFA Jay ____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay What is the entry point name of the cold-start routine? DanP18 CLDSTRT James S WI 56 AFC DYAJim FRIGIDBEGINNING AFA Jay when does a cold-start usually happen? AFL GaryJ :) AFL GaryJ CoolHandleLuke AFA Jay Hello? :) Sheppy RESET AFA Jay tick tick tick :) AFC DYAJim REBOOT Sheppy PWRUP James S WI Bzzzzzzzz???? AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFL GaryJ Ahah, looks like Sheppy found his manual :) AFA Jay ANSWER: PWRUP :) Sheppy (forgot that RESET was warm-start... :) AFA Jay Alright, why don't we do out last bonus question (an easy one) AFA Jay and we'll see who won this round :) AFL GaryJ Last Bonus question! AFA Jay Ready? AFA AndyW ready AFA Jay _____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > BONUS QUESTION!!! AFA Jay _____________________________________ Sheppy go AFA Jay *** FIRST CORRECT ANSWER RECEIVES *** AFA Jay *** THREE ADDITIONAL POINTS!! *** AFA Jay AFA Jay What are the >>TWO<< keywords that will bring you AFA Jay directly to the Apple II Development Forum? AFA Jay PUT BOTH ANSWERS ON ONE LINE!! :) SPEEDLIMIT ADV AFA AndyW ADV Apple Development AFL GaryJ :) AFA Jay nope... AFL GaryJ (I love this question :) AFC DYAJim deja vu SPEEDLIMIT :) James S WI ADV / The Best Forum Sheppy ADV DEV :) AFA Jay Ok, we all know ADV...what's the other one? AFL GaryJ Good answer, James (but not right :) SPEEDLIMIT hmmm Apple Sheppy DEV2 Sheppy DEVIT AFA AndyW ADV, Development Sheppy AIIDEV DanP18 adv adf Sheppy II Be or Not II Be AFA Jay not quite....... SPEEDLIMIT LOL Sheppy a2DEV AFA AndyW (at least on an Apple //gs it does).. Just did it! Matt DTS (You really ought to get that second one changed to something people remember.) AFL GaryJ Close, Sheppy Sheppy AIIDEV SPEEDLIMIT <<-- only has to know one ;) AFA Jay CLOSE! Sheppy AIIDEVELOP Sheppy IIDEV AFL GaryJ Ooohh, closer Matt DTS (Hint: It's not "A2Pro") AFA AndyW Jay, I just did Development, and it brought me right here.. Sheppy IIDEVELOP Sheppy II DEVELOPMENT AFL GaryJ Hmm.. (I shouldn't have said closer :) AFA Jay Well, you can use a OA-B to search for it? :) Sheppy II AFL GaryJ Really, Andy? AFA AndyW That's right.. AFC DYAJim andy is right DanP18 adv a2 development James S WI I just did development and it took me to Mac Development :) SPEEDLIMIT ADV Forums AFA Jay Hey, it does :) AFC DYAJim ahh, james has a good point AFC DYAJim it's platform specific AFA AndyW It probably wont, from a PC or Mac, but from the A2, it does! Matt DTS So Andy answered correctly first. AFA Jay It depends on the computer, I guess. AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay Alright, enough :) Matt DTS Andy gave 2 keywords that bring him to ADV from a IIgs station. I think that counts. Sheppy Bad question, I think... :) AFA AndyW But, this is an A2 forum! :) AFA Jay The two answers that will bring you here from ANY platform...are... AFA Jay ADV and A2 Development AFL GaryJ I think it does too (I didn't know that Development worked! :) DanP18 That's what i said! SPEEDLIMIT ADV is easier ;) AFL GaryJ (It must depend on the machine) AFL GaryJ A2 Development is the other "official" keyword. Sheppy <--- Agrees with Speedy. AFA AndyW Should have specified the ANY PLATFORM.. AFC DYAJim points to whom? AFA Jay Wait, I have another bonus, let's do that one? :) AFL GaryJ (I don't know why, nobody ever uses the old style LONG keywords) Sheppy Do the other bonus. AFA Jay Let's see if anyone can get this one }:> James S WI Just Do It! AFC DYAJim points to whom on the last one? SPEEDLIMIT Everyone should have a Point ;) or so I've heard ;) AFA Jay Ok, I don't quite have a macro ;) AFA Jay _____________________________________ AFA Jay AFA Jay ADV TRIVIA! AFA Jay > BONUS QUESTION!!! AFA Jay _____________________________________ AFA Jay *** FIRST CORRECT ANSWER RECEIVES *** AFA Jay *** THREE ADDITIONAL POINTS *** AFA Jay Name >TWO< areas connected to ADV that are accessible AFA Jay from forum menus represented on all THREE platforms (A2, Mac, PC) AFA Jay on America Online. SPEEDLIMIT Apple and Software AFA Jay Areas connected to ADV, so they're somewhere on our menu SPEEDLIMIT are these keywords ??? AFA Jay They're areas AFL GaryJ No AFL GaryJ Areas AFL GaryJ Attached to ADV DanP18 accross the baords, lets discuss AFA AndyW Programmer U, Game SIG AFL GaryJ (Should be easy) AFA Jay Ding! AFL GaryJ Got it, Andy AFA Jay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUZZ!! <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AFA Jay ANSWER: Programmer U & the Game Designer's SIG AFA AndyW Well, game designers sig.. Sheppy <--- didn't know Programmer U was connected across. :( AFA AndyW Sure is! AFC DYAJim points to andy Matt DTS Well, I'll be taking off gang. It's been fun. AFA Jay Ok, let's see what we have here for the final scores! AFL GaryJ Yep. Programmer U can be accessed from PDV, MDV, and ADV. James S WI I vote that in the future these questions focus on programming and developing rather than AOL and ADV. Sheppy I concur. These AOL-related questions are stupid. AFC DYAJim Points noted. SPEEDLIMIT Andy... from that area it does. Which I think was the Question DanP18 Knowledge is power. SPEEDLIMIT It's Moot anyway though ;) AFL GaryJ Only the bonus questions had to do with ADV. AFA AndyW Nope.. AFC DYAJim what's the concensus on wanting more trivia events? DanP18 YES! MORE TRIVIA! James S WI Yes! Sheppy Sure -- just no more AOL questions. I try to ignore AOL except for posts and AFA AndyW Question was to come directly to ADV.. Sheppy email (and downloads/uploads) AFA AndyW Yes, more trivia! SPEEDLIMIT LOL Sheppy ;) James S WI (But About programming) Sheppy Programming questions only. AFL GaryJ It was fun, anyway AFA Jay It could have been worse... AFA AndyW Score tally? Sheppy I sucked in the second round. James S WI And meba some one that uses a high level language or two could write some questions.(Not counting BAS) AFL GaryJ (Counting) James S WI meba? SPEEDLIMIT Curious..., has anyone gotten the JULY issue of Incider yet ??? AFC DYAJim I got my incider today SPEEDLIMIT DYAJim :) thanks I was just wondering if they were mailed yet or not. James S WI I can't wait to get mine so I can burn it or something. };) James S WI (inCider that is_ Sheppy Ooooh! Late for that, huh? What were the final scores for round two? SPEEDLIMIT james... read the reviews first though ;) DanP18 inCider doesn't burn well. (Too green with envy over macs) AFL GaryJ Scores! AFL GaryJ DanP18: 6.5 AFL GaryJ AndyW (assuming we use both bonus questions): 11.5 Sheppy Dan was pretty hot tonight! AFL GaryJ Sheppy: 8 AFL GaryJ James: 4 James S WI Well, there is always the shedder at work. Sheppy Woah, jeez, Andy, wow... AFA AndyW The shredder would probably choke on it! SPEEDLIMIT <<- has 6 copies of Incider and I'm not burning any of them :) DanP18 shedder would choke. I know it sticks in *my* craw. SPEEDLIMIT the last issue that is ;) James S WI Not this one. It eats books. Real nasty machine. AFL GaryJ Looks like Sheppy gets the 2 hours this round, and Dan gets the one hour. AFL GaryJ (Since Andy is not eligible for free time) SPEEDLIMIT WTG Sheppy :) and WTG Dan :) DanP18 Thanks. AFL GaryJ Yeah, Sheppy! Sheppy Congrats, Dan. AFA AndyW <- just likes playing! Sheppy Thanks, Speedy. AFL GaryJ Congrats, Dan