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From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Oh Gno, It came.....
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 15:35:03 GMT
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In article <1993Sep22.100003.10185@msuvx2> ustai@msuvx2.memst.edu writes:
>Hi,
>	Welcome the latest member to the Gno family... ;-)  Just received my
>2.0 yesterday, and it was basically "plug 'n' play" even with the MU option
>turned on.  Btw, even tho it says it's easy to install the MU option later, no
>where else does it mention how to do it... (unless I missed it of course, but
>I read thru the whole manual).

Multi-user?

>	While the install program made it easier to install GNO (I've heard
>tales about pre-1.0 beta ;-)), I would like to be able to specify where I'd
>like GNO to go instead of it deciding on its own.  Also, I said "YES" to all
>those "wouldja like to replace your orcalib" etc etc.  Was that kosher?  Or
>should I reinstall my Orca/C 2.0?

That's kosher if you want your Orca/C programs to be compatible with GNO :-)

>	It was very like unix and one of the first things I did was to use
>djpeg (backgrounded of course), and I liked it very much.  I would definitely
>like to be able to do "cd /" to go to the root Gno directory.

"cd" by itself goes to your $HOME directory.  "cd /" is something we beta
testers have been hounding Jawaid about since March (-:

>	One problem I had was creating new users.  I edited the /etc/passwd
>file and created a new subdirectory but could not login as the new user (won't
>accept the new userid).  After a crash and a reboot, I was able to login as
>"Tai" but it defaulted to the "root" subdirectory.  I did specify it correctly
>in the /etc/passwd file (/usr/Tai).  Oh, btw, I had three mysterious

Did you include a properly encoded password, a non-conflicting UID, and
correct home and shell entries? Ie:

tai:SaWvw75Rli8kgN0:0:42:Tai-Dye:/home/tai:/bin/gsh

Would be a valid /etc/passwd entry, if you change the encrypted password to
something real and the /home/tai to someplace real (/home/ is in my
/etc/namespace :)

>	Also, how do you install man pages?  And "man passwd" didn't work. 
>Gave me a ***nroff: unable to open macro file /usr/lib/tmac/tmac.man

Sounds serious.  To install man pages, copy them into /usr/man/man*/ as
appropriate, just like on Real UNIX (tm).  Ie, for user programs, put them in
/usr/man/man1/, etc, etc.

>	Su didn't work.  And the 601 keyboard select stuff didn't work (ie,
>OA-W can't work.....  argh, have to go...  more later...

'su' works for me.  I have 'alias quit su -f init 5' (for when I'm running in
multiuser mode).



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From: sbdocker@acs.ucalgary.ca (Sean Brendan Dockery)
Subject: what is tmac?  (was Re: Oh Gno, It came.....)
Message-ID: <Sep23.184150.68017@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 18:41:50 GMT
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In article <1993Sep22.213130.10206@msuvx2> ustai@msuvx2.memst.edu
writes:

| |Reformatting page, please wait...
| |***nroff: unable to open macro file /usr/lib/tmac/tmac.an
| 
| 	What's tmac?

tmac stands for Troff MACros, I believe.

For an example of what they are used for, try to following

	cd /usr/man/man1
	nroff -man <whatevercmd>.1 | less

If you have the macros file tmac.an, then the output should appear
similar to output from the man command.

The "reformatting page" message usually appears when your UNIX box is
doing something to the effect of

	nroff -man /usr/man/man1/more.1 > /usr/man/cat1/more.1

When completed, it simply opens the file /usr/man/cat1/more.1 for
viewing with the pager (usually 'more' or 'less') named in your
$MANPAGER variable.

I generally use the nroff command to view nroff files which use macros
other than the [m]an set.

	nroff -m<extention> <filename>

will search /usr/lib/tmac for the file tmac.<extention>, load it, and
use it for viewing the specificied file.

| -Tai
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