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From: Dragon King <markhj01@visi.com>
Subject: Re: lpr and deskjet printer
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> > pi:b:once:i:/usr/sbin/runover .ttyb /bin/stty 57600

This would be the correct line to use.. Explanation below.

> I changed my inittab file to:

> pi:123478:rest:i:/usr/sbin/runover .ttyb /bin/stty 57600

I would really suggest you use the line I stated previously.. The reason I
say this comes from looking at the third field.. It should only be "once".
By putting "rest" there as you did will cause the process to be restarted
when it exits. This is not needed and only creates unnecessary load on the
system.

> This allows the deskjet printer to work and increases the overall
> response time with entering other commands even when nothing is going
> to the printer. What is the difference between using runover and using
> getty in the inittab file?

runover is used when you need to run an arbitrary process on a
terminal.  For example if you wanted to use xlogin(8) you would need to
use runover to get it to work on .ttyco..

getty is _only_ used to allow logins to the computer from the specified
terminal.

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From: MA <Marlin.Allred@unisys.com>
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Subject: Re: lpr and deskjet printer
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Dragon King wrote:
> 
> > > pi:b:once:i:/usr/sbin/runover .ttyb /bin/stty 57600
> 
> This would be the correct line to use.. Explanation below.
>
Okay, what does setting the second parameter, "b" do for me that is
better than using the init levels?
 
> > I changed my inittab file to:
> 
> > pi:123478:rest:i:/usr/sbin/runover .ttyb /bin/stty 57600
> 
> I would really suggest you use the line I stated previously.. The reason I
> say this comes from looking at the third field.. It should only be "once".
> By putting "rest" there as you did will cause the process to be restarted
> when it exits. This is not needed and only creates unnecessary load on the
> system.
> 
> > This allows the deskjet printer to work and increases the overall
> > response time with entering other commands even when nothing is going
> > to the printer. What is the difference between using runover and using
> > getty in the inittab file?
> 
> runover is used when you need to run an arbitrary process on a
> terminal.  For example if you wanted to use xlogin(8) you would need to
> use runover to get it to work on .ttyco..
> 
> getty is _only_ used to allow logins to the computer from the specified
> terminal.
> 
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From: MA <Marlin.Allred@unisys.com>
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Subject: Re: lpr and deskjet printer
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:10:25 -0700
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Dragon King wrote:
> 
> On 5 Feb 1998, Devin Reade wrote:
> 
> > In article <34D7405C.5D50@unisys.com>, MA  <Marlin.Allred@unisys.com> wrote:
> > >Does the lpr/lpd printer interface support deskjet printers with a
> > >56K baud serial interface? I have not been able to get this combination
> > >to work.
> >
> > I'm afraid that I can't tell you much; I don't have a serial deskjet
> > so I can't debug your setup, either.  You can see if Jeff Markham
> > is still supporting lpr/lpd/lpc.  Otherwise the source code is
> 
> I'll support it as much as I can. I don't have a deskjet of any sort to
> test with. I did think of something to try since you mentioned it uses 56K
> baud. Is the baud for .ttyb set right? the only easy way I can think of to
> check would be to use a test program. I believe it was tc3.c from the
> termcap library archive. I couldn't locate it on the ftp.gno.org archive
> so I'm not sure where to get it off hand.
> 
> For now you could issue the command "stty 57600 < .ttyb" and then try it.
> If that fixes it I'd suggest adding a line like the following to
> /etc/inittab
> pi:b:once:i:/usr/sbin/runover .ttyb /bin/stty 57600
> 
> Let us know how that works. This might be something that should be put in
> the faq.
> 
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Setting the .ttyb to 57600 corrected the problem and the lpr/lpd looks
good with the deskjet print even though there is a small bug in lpd.

I changed my inittab file to:

pi:123478:rest:i:/usr/sbin/runover .ttyb /bin/stty 57600

This allows the deskjet printer to work and increases the overall
response time with entering other commands even when nothing is going
to the printer. What is the difference between using runover and using
getty in the inittab file?

Marlin
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> Okay, what does setting the second parameter, "b" do for me that is
> better than using the init levels?

"b" is the boot level.. It's covered in the inittab(5) manpage..

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