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From: stever@gate.net (Steve Reeves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProDOS on a Zip 100 drive
Date: 23 Jan 1996 02:39:23 -0500
Organization: CyberGate, Inc.
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In article <DLFFLx.2Fp@actrix.gen.nz>,
David Empson <dempson@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>In article <4dktje$be9m@hopi.gate.net>, Steve Reeves <stever@gate.net> wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to get a Mac to recognize ProDOS partitions as well
>> (on a regular hard drive, though, not a Zip), and I too have been
>> unsuccessful.  The Mac seems to ignore any foreign partitions on the
>> device if it finds an HFS partition.
>
>This is probably connected to the Mac device driver (stored in its own
>partition on the drive).
>
>Some Mac drivers will ignore all partitions that are not specified as
>"Apple_HFS" in the partition map.  Anything else is regarded as an
>unknown partition type, and is not made available to the Mac OS.  PC
>Exchange (for example) will not be able to see any ProDOS partitions,
>because "Apple_PRODOS" partitions are ignored. 

Thanks, David, but PC Exchange is supposed to be able to see ProDOS
partitions.  The following paragraph is from the PC Exchange 2.0.3
ReadMe file (on the net at URL "gopher://info.apple.com/00/TIL/
Macintosh%20Software/Utility%20Software/Macintosh%20PC%20Exchange/
PC%20Exchange%202.0.3%20%20ReadMe%20File"):

   If a SCSI hard disk or removable media cartridge has been formatted to
   contain multiple partitions, you can use PC Exchange to mount the
   Macintosh-, DOS-, or ProDOS-format partitions as individual logical
   drives on the Macintosh Desktop. If the disk contains both Macintosh
   and DOS-format partitions, PC Exchange will only recognize the
   Macintosh partition. In addition, PC Exchange will only recognize
   ProDOS-format partitions on SCSI hard disks that are less than 32
   megabytes.

(I assume there should be an "or equal to" after "less than" in the
last sentence.)  I found another article in the Apple Technical Info
Library (attached below) that appears to explain the problem.  (The URL
is "gopher://info.apple.com/00/TIL/DOS%20and%20Windows%20Environment/
PCXchg%20ProDOSMSDOS-Mac%20Partns".)  Does this sound reasonable?

   PC Exchange: ProDOS, MS DOS, and Macintosh Partitions (8/94)

   Article Created: 24 August 1994

   TOPIC ---------------------------------------------------------

   I'm sharing ProDOS or MS DOS partitions on a volume with a Macintosh
   partition. Why can't I see the ProDOS and MS DOS partitions with PC
   Exchange?

   DISCUSSION ----------------------------------------------------

   Any ProDOS or MS DOS volume originally formatted as a Macintosh volume
   may not work with PC Exchange. It seems certain Macintosh residue (boot
   block information) is left on the drive so PC Exchange is confused at the
   Macintosh-like characteristics. Since PC Exchange sees the drive as a
   Macintosh drive, it just ignores it and won't mount as a MS DOS or ProDOS
   volume.

   The solution is to perform a low level format on any Macintosh volume
   before formatting it with a non-Macintosh operating system. This low level
   format (with some Apple II or DOS utility) eliminates Macintosh boot block
   information from the drive so PC Exchange won't see it as a Macintosh drive.

   Support Information Services
   Copyright 1994, Apple Computer, Inc.

   Keywords:  ksts

   ====================================================================
   This information comes from the Apple Technical Information Library.


-- 
Steve Reeves
stever@gate.net
